• MirukufyMirukufy February 2010

    When do you use なの and when do you use の only? I read that you use なの for non-conjugated nouns and na-adjectives, but I'm not sure what a non-conjugated noun is... ^^"

    Also, なの is a copula isn't it? So would you be able to use it to replace だ or です?

    Finally, when exactly are なんだ/なんです used? As well as なんだから/なんですから and なんだろう/なんでしょう?

    Thanks in advance!! :D

  • KouhiiChanKouhiiChan March 2010

    Hmm, I remember reading somewhere that you don't use なの after i-adjectives and that なの=だ+の.

  • TobberothTobberoth March 2010

    Like kouhiichan said, なの=だ+の. Where you would need だ, you need な before の.

    なんです (or なのです) gives a sentence a tone of explanation. It's used in a question to indicate that you want an explanation and used in an answer to show that it's an explanation.

  • studyinghardstudyinghard March 2010

    のです is used in the same way as んです, isn't it?

  • TobberothTobberoth March 2010

    Posted By: stupidquestions
    [p]のです is used in the same way as んです, isn't it?[/p]

    Yes.

  • studyinghardstudyinghard March 2010

    Thank ya, sir (or madam).

  • tamatamatamatama March 2010

    Posted By: KouhiiChan
    [p]Hmm, I remember reading somewhere that you don't use なの after i-adjectives and that なの=だ+の.[/p]


    Well, you wouldn't say おいしいだ, but you can say おいしいなのよ or おいしいなのです. However if you want to form it in a (possibly girly) question, drop the な: おいしいの? (Of course you can also say おいしいだろう and おいしいな, but this な=ね、not だ)

    Posted By: Mirukufy
    [p]As well as なんだから/なんですから and なんだろう/なんでしょう?[/p]


    なんだから is to emphasize an explanation: もう5年生なんだから、もっとしっかりしなさい。
    なんだろう is used for asking what something is: あれは何だろう?

  • MirukufyMirukufy March 2010

    Oh, I think I get it now. Thanks!!

    And um, one more question. 何だ and なんだ(なのだ) aren't the same thing, right?

  • KouhiiChanKouhiiChan March 2010

    Posted By: tamatama
    Well, you wouldn't say おいしいだ, but you can say おいしいなのよ or おいしいなのです.


    I started a thread here about something similar before: http://forum.jisho.org/discussion/480/naadj-at-the-end-of-a-sentence/#Item_0

    You don't use なの at the end of i-adjective, but you can use の or な/なあ.

  • tamatamatamatama March 2010

    Posted By: Mirukufy
    [p]Oh, I think I get it now. Thanks!![/p][p]And um, one more question. 何だ and なんだ(なのだ) aren't the same thing, right?[/p]


    Sure. Yes. (By the way, I'm not sure if なのだ and なんだ are completely the same. I don't know if you can use なのだ for a question, but なんだ is very common--あれはなんだ!?!, or as I prefer あれはなんなんだ!?!)

  • TobberothTobberoth March 2010

    Posted By: Mirukufy
    [p]Oh, I think I get it now. Thanks!![/p][p]And um, one more question. 何だ and なんだ(なのだ) aren't the same thing, right?[/p]

    No. Like you correctly showed, 何だ uses the kanji for "what". なのだ doesn't share that meaning at all, though of course, 何だ and なんだ are pronounced the same.

  • tamatamatamatama March 2010

    Sorry about the confusion in my comments. Tobberoth's right. I wasn't thinking clearly. なんだ could either be なのだ or 何だ. I don't often think about these things anymore, which is why I like this forum! Thanks, Tobbes.

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