Confuzzled???
  • zbotzbot April 2009

    Ok. So i am learning Japanese on my own and i listen to J-pop. Sometimes i get confused because not everything is in a learning friendly form or order. i was thinking if someone could help me translate this part, i could understand a little more. i mean, eventually my aim is to not need translation help right?
    ok so its: 曲がりくねった細い道人に躓く。 ive got: stumbling over a twisting narrow road person????? O_o i know thats not right soooo... help please!!!

  • AodhAodh April 2009

    When Japanese is spoken or sung, like English, things get left out. In this case, I think the particle で was removed.

    曲がりくねった細い道「で」人に躓く。

    曲がりくねる - to bend many times; to turn and twist; to zigzag
    細い - thin; slender; fine
    躓く - to stumble; to trip

    A person stumbles on a narrow, winding road.

    Not sure why に and not が though, so it might have a different meaning. If the verb was causative (躓かせる) then に would make more sense implying that something made him trip. I'll hand it over to the more experienced on the site to answer.

  • zbotzbot May 2009

    Thank you for what you could contribute :). i also just thought of another thing. Why, instead of using the present tense, is the past tense used for 曲がりくねった? I dont really think it makes a difference in meaning so why not the present?

  • AodhAodh May 2009

    http://eow.alc.co.jp/%E6%9B%B2%E3%81%8C%E3%82%8A%E3%81%8F%E3%81%AD/UTF-8/

    Most of the phrases there use past tense when talking about objects. The only present tense examples were like below.

    曲がりくねっている - twist and turn
    ジャングルの中を曲がりくねる - wind through the jungle

    Since the road is already built, the action of making it wind is already complete. We just say winding or twisting more commonly than winded and twisted when talking about roads in English.

    森の中の山道は曲がりくねっている。 - The trail switches back through forest.
    That sentence would probably have the same meaning as 森の中の曲がりくねった山道です。 The first sentence would have a more active tone while the second would be more descriptive/passive.

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